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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 08:57

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The Renatian Empire: Military
The Imperial Military is in fact one contenuous chain of command. Though the elements rarly mix and no one the various branches have no authority over the others. All the branches are lead by the Lord Commander, who has an advisory seat on the Imperial Council.
Cult of The War God
The offically sanctioned religion of the Military, they worship Karthe, the God of warriors, honorable combat, and warfare. Mostly refered to simply and the "War God" he is invoked upon the eve of battle, as well as the war cries of his followers.
Imperial Army
The infantry forces of the Renatian Imperial Army are the backbone of the Renatian armed forces. They are armed with Disintergration/hellgun combi rifles and hell pistols, and outfitted in a powered exoskeleton, armored with adamantine plates coated with 5cm thick ceremite layers. They also have 10 inch long retractable power blades in their right vambrace. This particular pattern is called Acryos armor, and is exclusive to the Renatian forge worlds, and is known for it's sheild efficany. Comes with a full HUD and auspex system as well as a tactical and communications suite.
Heavy units go into battle armored in Althiar Exoskeleton, which is comparable to Tactical Dreadnought armor. Normally armed with lascannons and a Photon Lances that can be collapsed into the chasises. Though they also have graviton based back mounted weapons for crowd control. They also posess a much more acurate variation of the teliportation technology used by the Imperium.
It is normal for the human forces of the Renatian army to be suplemented with conscripted alien and abhuman forces. These Auxillery Forces are perposfully outfitted with inferior equipment, to ensure that the threat of an uprising is minimal. As well as being commanded by specially trained human officers that are able to keep order through fear and intimidation.

Rank and structure
The ranks of the Renatian Imperial Army are as follows, from lowest to highest.
-Private
-Corpral
-Sergant
-Lt.
-Captain
-Major
-Colonal
-Commander

Privates and Corprals make up the bulk of the Army, Sergents serve as fire team commanders. A fire team is a group of seven in a fifteen man squad. A Lt. serves as a squad commander and answers to their Platoon's (group of six squads) Captain. A Major oversees a Battalion, a group sixty Platoons, and they answer to a Colonal who oversees a Division of fourteen Battalions. A Commander oversees a Regiment which is normally five Divisions.
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 12:08

Lucarus wrote:The Renatian Empire: Military
The Imperial Military is in fact one contenuous chain of command. Though the elements rarly mix and no one the various branches have no authority over the others. All the branches are lead by the Lord Commander, who has an advisory seat on the Imperial Council.
This Lord Commander... Does he comes from any particular branch, or does he have to go through them all to be considered reliable?

Lucarus wrote:Cult of The War God
The offically sanctioned religion of the Military, they worship Karthe, the God of warriors, honorable combat, and warfare. Mostly refered to simply and the "War God" he is invoked upon the eve of battle, as well as the war cries of his followers.
Mixing in future chaos cults? Or is he more like Khaine?

Lucarus wrote:Imperial Army
The infantry forces of the Renatian Imperial Army are the backbone of the Renatian armed forces. They are armed with Disintergration/hellgun combi rifles and hell pistols, and outfitted in a powered exoskeleton, armored with adamantine plates coated with 5cm thick ceremite layers. They also have 10 inch long retractable power blades in their right vambrace. This particular pattern is called Acryos armor, and is exclusive to the Renatian forge worlds, and is known for it's sheild efficany. Comes with a full HUD and auspex system as well as a tactical and communications suite.
"Disintegration"? I don't think I remember anything like this in 40k. Please elaborate.

Lucarus wrote:Heavy units go into battle armored in Althiar Exoskeleton, which is comparable to Tactical Dreadnought armor. Normally armed with lascannons and a Photon Lances that can be collapsed into the chasises. Though they also have graviton based back mounted weapons for crowd control. They also posess a much more acurate variation of the teliportation technology used by the Imperium.
Why do they even need teleportation tech on a daily basis?
And what's "Photon lance"? Eldars Brightlance equivalent? Imperial Las Cannon equivalent? How are they collapsible?

Lucarus wrote:It is normal for the human forces of the Renatian army to be suplemented with conscripted alien and abhuman forces. These Auxillery Forces are perposfully outfitted with inferior equipment, to ensure that the threat of an uprising is minimal. As well as being commanded by specially trained human officers that are able to keep order through fear and intimidation.
So the goverments pretty much treats those aliens and abhumans as criminals no matter what they did or didn't. It's called racism, and from our earthly example it will, in a 100% cases over longer periods of time, lead to rebelions.
I get that this Empire doesn't need to be perfect little paradise, just making sure you know what is expected to happen of this situation. Smile

Lucarus wrote:Rank and structure
The ranks of the Renatian Imperial Army are as follows, from lowest to highest.
-Private
-Corpral
-Sergant
-Lt.
-Captain
-Major
-Colonal
-Commander

Privates and Corprals make up the bulk of the Army, Sergents serve as fire team commanders. A fire team is a group of seven in a fifteen man squad. A Lt. serves as a squad commander and answers to their Platoon's (group of six squads) Captain. A Major oversees a Battalion, a group sixty Platoons, and they answer to a Colonal who oversees a Division of fourteen Battalions. A Commander oversees a Regiment which is normally five Divisions.
"Commander" is really overall term for anyone in command. Sure you want to incorporate common term into official names? There's a bunch of Generals you could sitll use instead.
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 21:30

@1- Actually he is the overall leader of the military and is not part of any one branch.

@2-You'll See...

@3- http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Disintegration_Weapon

@4-Why do terminators need it? I suspect the answer is the same. Actually, I created it as a new variation of a weapon used by Mechanicus Myrmidons   http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Photon_Thruster_Weapon

@5-Oh I know, that will be very important later...

@6- Actually it's a real rank in several nations, I just used the name for a much higher rank than they use it for. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commander
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 21:41

Lucarus wrote:@1- Actually he is the overall leader of the military and is not part of any one branch.
I actually ment- where does he come from? How does one becomes a Lord Commander? What's the career path to reach it?

Also, I think I missed some lore I should have known already. Razz
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 21:47

Oh I see. He (Lord Commander) is selected from regimental Colonels by the Imperial Council (the ruling body) with the currant Emperor or Empress (executive leader, like a Prime Minister, or a President) selecting the candidates.

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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 21:57

Also: Yes the lascannon is comparable to the Imperium's one. They collapse by folding into compartments in the chassis when not in use.
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 21:59

Ok, I think that answers all my questions for now. I'll wait for more. Smile
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 22:01

Here's some more then.

Vehicles (Ground)
Shade Class Land Speeder -An antigrav one man recon/assault bike, armored with plasteel and cerimite layers and armed with front mounted duel-linked bolter.

Heilos Class Mainline tank -A adamantine and ceritmite armored two man tank, it's main weapon is a lascannon, along with a auto gun.

Geryon Class Heavy Tank -An adamantine clad juggernaut armed with a massive plasma cannon, this tetrapod class tank can move across adverse terrain quickly on it's four mechanical legs. For antipersonnel armaments it has three autogun turrets on each side as well as an A-A lascannon turret on the top just behind the main gun. Can be converted into stationary artillery.

Oroborus Class APC -An armored troop carrier. It has duel autoguns as it's armaments. Can hold one squad.


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Post by Farseer Amathar on 15/6/2016, 22:13

That is a huge APC. Like a crawling garage... Isn't capacity of that magnitude more common in orbital drop-ships (not drop-pods, but the ships responsible for making beachheads) instead?
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 22:14

Lucarus wrote:Shade Class Land Speeder -An antigrav one man recon/assault bike, armored with plasteel and cerimite layers and armed with front mounted duel heavy boltguns.
You do know that not even Astartes Bikes use heavy botguns as their armament? Those things on SM bikes are normal, twin linked bolters. Might ease up on that.

Lucarus wrote:Hellion Class Mainline Tank -An adamantine clad juggernaut armed with a massive plasma cannon, this tetrapod class tank can move across adverse terrain quickly on it's four mechanical legs. For antipersonnel armaments it has three autogun turrets on each side as well as an A-A lascannon turret on the top just behind the main gun. Can be converted into stationary artillery.
3 autogun turrets per side are quite many, but within the limits of tanks, but AA lascannon turret behind the main gun pretty much puts it in the same class as Imperial supeheavy tanks.
Also "Hellions" are Dark Eldars units, you might want to make sure the name won't confuse anyone.

Lucarus wrote:Oroborus Class APC -An armored troop carrier designed to tank punishment and penetrate enemy fortifications and troop formations. It has duel lascannons and a vertical missle launcher as it's armaments. Can hold up to two squads (30 people) and two land speeders.
Troop carrier that doubles as a siege unit AND triples as tank hunter?
You went overboard with armaments of all of them, I see...
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 22:28

@Amathar The size reflects squad size, the bikes are housed in compartment on the sides. Would it be better if I had the squad separate into multiple smaller carriers?

@Ris/1- Your right, I overlooked that.

@Ris/2- Yeah I know, these things aren't built like Imperium tanks and there are perhaps a couple hundred per regiment, with regiment being tens of thousands of people. Also I wasn't aware of the Dark Eldar thing... will fix.

@Ris/3- Not really, it's more like a mobile barracks. It wouldn't be used for anything more than that.
I didn't go overboard. This is sopposed to be a remnant of technologicaly superior Tech Age humans, if anything I think it's quite reasonable considering. They have respectable numbers, but nothing like the imperum, so they need superior arms to off set this.
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 15/6/2016, 22:33

Perhaps, yes. APC's have to be maneuverable and the larger the capacity (as well as the more guns you have on it) the larger the vehicle has to be to hold those individuals and ammunition for the mounted weapons. The larger the vehicle, the harder the time it's going to have going down rubble-strewn urban warzones. While it won't always be fighting there, a good APC should be multi-purpose, so it is still a consideration to make. And doesn't your description specifically say two squads? I'd cut it down to fifteen, if possible.
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 22:34

Hm... fair enough.
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 22:36

Lucarus wrote:@Ris/2- Yeah I know, these things aren't built like Imperium tanks and there are perhaps a couple hundred per regiment, with regiment being tens of thousands of people.
Imperial regiments also have tens of thousand of people standard.
I noticed most people consider "regiment standard" to be those of Last Chancers, or Tanith First and Only, where they had couple of thousands at best, but those were very specialised regiments. Most "common" regiments (consisted of medium armored troopers) are tens of thousands each. Obviously, the more specialised or elite (or just older), the less men they will have, but common ones, classical cannon fodder regiments, they are just that.
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 22:38

I've edited some of the stuff.

Very well, I'll move them up to a heavy tank area and create a weaker type to take up the mainline slot.
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 15/6/2016, 22:40

Wait! Quick add on. Take the Rhino vs Razorback idea if you want to keep the ship huge. Strip off the weapons and keep all 30. Or keep the weapons and knock down the inner capacity. That way, it can still be viewed as a landraider and you can get away with the large capacity a lot better.
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 22:44

Edits made.
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 22:50

Suddenly, those sound reasonable for 40k battlefields. Very Happy
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 23:01

Vehicals (Air)
Ignus Class Omnicraft -The main in-atmo fighter/bomber/interceptor for the Renatian Army. With VTOL capabilities and a wide aray of armerment options it serves as the back bone for the Imperial Air Corps. The diffent variations are noted by suffix anotations at the end of the class name:
Ignus/F
Ingus/B
Ignus/I

Omnicyrus Class Assault Transport -Both a void transport and in-atmo, can carry two sqauds (15 people each for 30 total) and two Shades. It had two plasma rotary guns and a missle pod for it armerments. Used for both fire support and troop transport. VTOL.

Xion Class Craft Transport- A larger version of the Omnicyrus, can transport a number of ground vehicals (ex: Two Helios, One Geryon, six Land Speeders Ect.). Simmilar armerment to the Omnicyrus.
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 23:11

I see you went full on Imperial navy this time. Smile
It's a good indicator of what's reasonable for battlefield units.
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 23:18

I'm try to balance power, technology, and reasonability.
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Post by Ristiald on 15/6/2016, 23:19

Yeah, there's a reason why everything can be traded for points. Smile
That's a good system IMO.
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 15/6/2016, 23:20

I don't mind if your a little over-powered. Judging by what I read back on the Vox Relay, you're pretty much comparable to the Tau, but more.... Humany (like Orky but with humans instead). Also, I'll come back and re-read this later. I woke up early, got to sleep late and my brain don't work so good right now....
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Post by Lucarus on 15/6/2016, 23:32

The funny thing is I know precisely jack about the Tau Very Happy . Any similarities are purely coincidental.
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 15/6/2016, 23:36

Really?  Well, like you: they have a smaller military with greater firepower to help make up for that.  They commonly use plasma weaponry that's stable but also less-hot than the Imperial Variety (though I believe after some debate, we figured your standard-issue plasma-rifle is less-powerful than their's and closer in-power to a bolter).  Those are just the first two, off of the top of my head.  Honestly, I used my knowledge of the Tau Manta when looking at your APC earlier, as well as just comparing it to standard Imperial Vehicles.

Speaking of which!  Anti-Grav or whatever kind of hover-engines the Imperium uses, were far more common during the Great Crusade and the Dark Age of Technology. I'm surprised you don't have more of it yourself.
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