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Post by Ristiald on 17/6/2016, 01:30

Given this trope suprisingly often occurances in comicbooks that are supposed to be for children I see no reason to remove this... Razz
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 17/6/2016, 01:41

That was the conclusion I came to, but understand the decision is ultimately up to you.  I'll post a few more that are funny and sum up the problems or fun with certain tropes.  Like I've said before, not all tropes are bad.  Sometimes, not sticking to the trope can cause dissonance that upsets readers/ viewers/ players/ ect..  Sometimes not sticking to a trope can subvert it and make it far more interesting than before.  It really goes in how you use them and the over-all feel you go with a story.

For instance, the next one can be played strait for comedic effect, employed as part of an adventure or action set-piece or can be subverted by a little slice of reality (as in the comic).

Convection Schmonvection: the ignoring of the laws of heat revolving around lava.  Common in TV and Video Games.

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Post by Farseer Amathar on 17/6/2016, 01:50

Harmless Freezing: Just read up on what freezing does to the body.  (I'm looking at you Captain America!)




Ever notice that the Heroes never have to pay for any laws they break or property they destroy in the pursuit of hero-ing? Usually it's swept under the rug. Sometimes they address it, usually to comedic effect, in order to lampshade the issue.
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Re: Random stuff

Post by Lucarus on 17/6/2016, 01:55

Ristiald wrote:Still not as dead as Faux Relay. Razz

Duuudddee... I don't smack talk this place on the relay.
Although there was some speculation about your motives...
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Re: Random stuff

Post by Farseer Amathar on 17/6/2016, 03:30

While I hate to speak for people, Ris is probably asleep for the night and I feel the need to throw in my two cents. I read Ris' post as a joke. An extremely poor taste joke, but a joke none-the-less. Muffin had just taken a jab at Ris and the forum, and judging by when it was posted, it was shortly after the forum started. In such a short time, I imagine (I'm sure you can confirm this for me as well, Lucan, you've had similar experiences by now) that Ris was still nervous as to whether this will get off the ground or whether he can draw in new recruits, so was probably being a bit too defensive and thus accidentally over-reached with a poor joke. I do hope he (Ristiald) apologizes, but I also hope (if I'm right) you'll forgive him and there is no hard feelings between the two of you.

Now onto more funny tropes as portrayed in short comic strips?
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Post by Lucarus on 17/6/2016, 04:00

Fair enough...
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 17/6/2016, 04:12

In the mean time:

You know, I've always wondered why a Daemon has never abused this trope to stop someone from using a book of true names.


Okay... best subversion of this, classic and somewhat campy trope I think I'd ever seen.


Happy Ending Override: When a Big Bad is defeated/ dead/ banished or otherwise completely dealt with, only to return in the squeal as still a threat. (Looking at you Star Wars: The Force Awakens)
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 17/6/2016, 04:32

This one really just explains itself...


I'm sure all of us are farmiliar with
Critical Failure: Mostly an RPG Trope that can be difficult to pull off in any other form, the result of a critical failure is represented by a finite (if somewhat comically large at times) chance that anything you do (though usually limited in RPG's to more dangerous tasks such as combat) can backfire on you, miss or just fail; usually in some spectacularly bad fashion.


Klingon Scientists Get No Respect: When you live on a Planet of Hats and you choose to do a different job then the rest of your planet, you often face discrimination.
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Post by Ristiald on 17/6/2016, 11:28

Lucarus wrote:
Ristiald wrote:Still not as dead as Faux Relay. Razz

Duuudddee... I don't smack talk this place on the relay.
Although there was some speculation about your motives...
Yeah, sorry Lucan.
Muffin tried to undermine the point of me doing this, I decided to take back at her by undermining the point of her doing something else. This was the first thing I came up with at the time.
No harm to you intended.
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Post by Lucarus on 17/6/2016, 12:35

Ah... well no harm done Smile
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Re: Random stuff

Post by Ristiald on 18/6/2016, 01:02

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Re: Random stuff

Post by Farseer Amathar on 18/6/2016, 04:13

This is probably my favorite opening joke to a show, ever.

"Yeah, welcome to the club, pal."

I haven't watched Simpsons in years, and only hopped onto the Rick and Morty bandwagon after incessantly hearing how great it was (sometimes the bandwagon is correct).  So here's this as well.
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Post by Ristiald on 18/6/2016, 09:49

Yeah, I need to watch Ricky and Morty too...
I know about it for some time now, but never found the time to do it. Razz
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 19/6/2016, 00:18

It's so aggressively nihilistic that I found it absolutely refreshing and hilarious (sometimes in a bleak sense, sometimes in a superiority sense). Definitely worth the time you put into it. Especially for someone like yourself, Ris.
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Post by Ristiald on 19/6/2016, 09:27

I'll check it and tell you what I think about it later. Very Happy
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 19/6/2016, 23:28

After you do, check out this video and tell me what you think, as well... please.  ('Cause it never hurts to be nice).

WARNING VIDEO CONTAINS SPOILERS

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Post by Ristiald on 20/6/2016, 00:27

Seen it, that's what made me aware of the series in the first place.
Also, this:


Also, I'm watching the series. Glad to know there actually are people out there that understand the world around us. Very Happy
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Post by Ristiald on 20/6/2016, 18:35

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Re: Random stuff

Post by Ristiald on 21/6/2016, 00:18

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Post by Farseer Amathar on 21/6/2016, 00:38

I was going to ask how you liked Rick and Morty, now that you've jumped in.  But it was on another thread and I didn't want to derail it...
So... um... above question?

Also, yes. I love youtube for the amount of content. There are definitely some gems there. Legitimate news there too. Man, we live in interesting times...
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Post by Ristiald on 21/6/2016, 11:33

Rick and Morty...
They go to lenghts to gross people out, but I like that main message is pretty clear for each episode. There's much to learn in it, and it's made in easily digestible bites.
Overall- 7/10. IMO obviously. Razz
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 21/6/2016, 19:50

I actually don't mind much of the gross-out humor. I occasionally find random and mundane things to be kind of gross (such as feet. Just stare at your feet... or your nose in a mirror... in general these body parts are pretty gross and weird-looking) so the gross-out-humor falls right-in-line with my idea of laughing at the world. But yeah, the messages they hit in the episodes can be deep or resoundingly human (and often impress me that a show would actually tackle that. But that might just be limited American Television. We make so much we export a lot of it, but don't import a lot of shows... except from Japan).

I also disagree with MatPat just a little on the Film Theory Video. I doubt that the Galactic Government or whatever it's called (spacing on name, limited on time not looking it up now) actually has enough information to track inter-dimensional travel. But I have no proof, that's just a guess. Maybe the very presence of the Council of Reeds... sorry, Ricks - disproves my idea. Why would the Ricks need to band together to fight off their respective Galactic Governments? My main complaint is probably a victim of flawed logic: wouldn't the presence or possibility of a portal gun mean that the laws of the uni/multi-verse are in such a way that it is possible to build a stable bridge across multiple universes? In other words, isn't the very fact that Rick discovered how to travel across the universe indication that he is only taking advantage of natural laws that already exist and therefore shouldn't destabilize the universe by being employed? And though I have no proof, I imagine if said laws exist, it also accounts for the possibility that somebody would use said laws to split a universe into two possibilities (one in which he did and did not travel to). Or am I just a victim of flawed logic on this one?
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Post by Ristiald on 21/6/2016, 20:54

I think you're overthinking a plot device. There are some assumptions made and some facts ignored (or forgotten), to put a story in a place. Sure, it's likely to create some plot holes, but I really don't need to be picking on them as long as the story is good.
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Post by Farseer Amathar on 22/6/2016, 03:18

Yeah... that was my initial thoughts about the Film Theory Video... but then I let it slosh around in my brain for a while I suddenly saw what I perceived to be a hole in his argument i couldn't ignore...
Then again, one of the things that I loved about Rick and Morty is despite all of their putting things back into place before the next episode, there is a surprising amount of internal consistency.
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Post by Ristiald on 22/6/2016, 10:29

Yeah, as I said- it's quite good. Smile
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